When your coworker rallies up the courage to share a story about being verbally abused by another coworker, your job is to listen and be respectful. You want them to know that you support them, and find their experience to be valid, even if their recollection of events does not match your own.
On Wednesday, a New York Times interview with the cast of “Arrested Development” became a textbook case study on how not to listen to your coworkers’ stories of workplace harassment. It began when Times reporter Sopan Deb brought up actor Jeffrey Tambor’s on-set behavior toward co-star Jessica Walter.
In an earlier interview to the Hollywood Reporter, Tambor had admitted to a “blowup” with Walter. When your coworker talks about being harassed, don’t laugh it off and dismiss it, as Walter’s male coworkers did when this incident was brought up. It will backfire.
“I’ve never had anybody yell at me like that on a set”
In the Times interview, Deb said to Tambor, “You even said at one point you lashed out at — ” and actress Jessica Walter identified herself as the one being lashed out at. This prompted laughter from the room. Co-star Jason Bateman, who plays Walter’s son, said that everyone yells at everybody on set. Walter pushed back against this blanket statement by noting that no one else had treated her the way Tambor had.
Bateman responded by noting that the cast was a family and families fought: “This is a family and families, you know, have love, laughter arguments — again, not to belittle it, but a lot of stuff happens in 15 years,” he said. “I can say that no matter what anybody in this room has ever done — and we’ve all done a lot, with each other, for each other, against each other — I wouldn’t trade it for the world and I have zero complaints.”
David Cross, another male costar, also downplayed Tambor’s behavior by saying that Tambor had “learned from the experience.”
Through audible tears, Walter acknowledged that Tambor had apologized: “Verbally, yes, he harassed me, but he did apologize. I have to let it go.” But she also noted that this was harassment that she had never experienced from anyone else in her decades of work: “Jason says this happens all the time. In like almost 60 years of working, I’ve never had anybody yell at me like that on a set,” she said.
One notable exception in the rush to defend and excuse Tambor’s outburst as normal was co-star Alia Shawkat, the only other woman in the room. After Bateman noted that acting was “a breeding ground for atypical behavior,” Shawkat jumped in to say: “But that doesn’t mean it’s acceptable. And the point is that things are changing, and people need to respect each other differently.”
After the interview was published, people on social media voiced support for Walter, criticizing how her male coworkers dismissed and belittled her story to defend Tambor.
Jessica Walter received a Golden Globe nomination in 1971, when Jason Bateman was two years old, and he thinks he should explain to her how show business works.
— Connor Goldsmith (@dreamoforgonon) May 23, 2018
This interview is really a perfect distillation of how people feel the need to protect and comfort powerful men at the expense of the people they've hurt. She was in the room. Crying. Everyone but Shawkat just wanted to defend him and move on. https://t.co/1bv4JHesW2
— Marin Cogan (@marincogan) May 23, 2018
Funny how Jessica Walter manages to be a genius without harassing anyone! This tired “erratic male genius” trope is just a Get Out of Jail Free card for people like Tambor who’ve never faced consequences in their lives.
— JuanPa (@jpbrammer) May 24, 2018
For some people, Walter’s need to let go of anger resonated with their own experiences at work:
the most relatable part about this interview is that part where jessica walter says she has to "let go" at being angry at Tambor for his verbal abuse, which is a position women constantly find themselves in to move forward with their lives and career: https://t.co/PI1CoNM3RO
— Ann-Marie Alcántara (@itstheannmarie) May 23, 2018
Not dismissing Jessica Walter's decision to "move on," but it was that or she becomes "the reason" why there is no new season of Arrested Development and draws the ire of millions of fans. It's unfair. Too often, women don't really have any other choice but to "move on."
— Vivian Ho (@VivianHo) May 23, 2018
Following the backlash, Bateman realized he had made a huge mistake and apologized for “mansplaining” and said he was “deeply sorry to have done that to Jessica.”
Based on listening to the NYT interview and hearing people’s thoughts online, I realize that I was wrong here.
I sound like I’m condoning yelling at work. I do not.
It sounds like I’m excusing Jeffery. I do not.
It sounds like I’m insensitive to Jessica. I am not.
In fact, I’m-— Jason Bateman (@batemanjason) May 24, 2018
…part of it all is – there’s never any excuse for abuse, in any form, from any gender. And, the victim’s voice needs to be heard and respected.
Period.I didn’t say that and instead said a bunch of other stuff and not very well.
I deeply, and sincerely, apologize.— Jason Bateman (@batemanjason) May 24, 2018
… sitting right there!
I’m incredibly embarrassed and deeply sorry to have done that to Jessica. This is a big learning moment for me.
I shouldn’t have tried so hard to mansplain, or fix a fight, or make everything okay.
I should’ve focused more on what the most important…— Jason Bateman (@batemanjason) May 24, 2018
…part of it all is – there’s never any excuse for abuse, in any form, from any gender. And, the victim’s voice needs to be heard and respected.
Period.I didn’t say that and instead said a bunch of other stuff and not very well.
I deeply, and sincerely, apologize.— Jason Bateman (@batemanjason) May 24, 2018
Tony Hale, one of the other male coworkers in the Times interview, also publicly apologized to Walter on Thursday.
I have reached out to Jessica personally to apologize. Arrested Development is one of my families. Regardless of my intentions, it is clear that my words, both said and unsaid, served to minimize Jessica’s pain and for that I am extremely sorry.
— Tony Hale (@MrTonyHale) May 24, 2018
